this deal done, not the night before, but before christmas. >> we have said that revenue, is something that the president said he needs, we have made the point that revenue is on the table. even if we were to conceive hypothetically, what the present has asked for, to let the tax rates go up on the top brackets, it would run the government for a limited period of time. roughly $85 billion. so the president really needs to tell us what his plan is. i'm increasingly pessimistic, not optimistic, because the president seems to be campaigning, rather than going anywhere and doing anything to get a deal. because if we don't get a deal, it will hurt a lot of people. >> are you saying that the way we're going now, we could actually go off the fiscal cliff? taxes go up on everyone.